The Curse of La Llorona was never supposed to be a Conjuring Universe movie (2024)

The Curse of La Llorona was never supposed to be a Conjuring Universe movie (1)

The Curse of La Llorona isn't actually a part of The Conjuring Universe despite its two Annabelle-related cameos, says director Michael Chaves. It only became known as the eighth installment in the hit horror franchise, apparently, because of a presenter's unfortunate misunderstanding at a film festival.

Based on Mexican folklore, the '70s-set film, which was released in 2019, centers on Anna (Linda Cardellini), a social worker who wrongly accuses a troubled mother of murdering her young children. With Patricia, the other woman, behind bars, Anna and her kids fall victim to a dark, malevolent force, causing Anna to realize that there was much more to Patricia's case than she realized.

In honor of The Conjuring's 10th anniversary earlier this week, Chaves sat down with James Wan and producer Peter Safran to reflect on the series so far. During the Entertainment Weekly interview, he claimed: "There's so much debate about it and I think I've played coy in the past. One of the reasons that it couldn't formally be a part of theConjuringUniverse is it didn't include one of the key producers, Peter Safran.The Conjuringis his baby, him and James, and they are still the two core producers on it."

In the movie, Anna gets so spooked that she seeks the help of Father Perez (Tony Amendola), a character introduced in 2014's Annabelle. During his scene, he refers to "an incident with a doll", before a flashback shows him carrying Annabelle, as his reason for not wanting to assist and palming her off to Raymond Cruz's priest Rafael Olvera.

"Peter still gave his permission to let [Annabelle] be in there. The funny thing is that it was supposed to be a secret, it was supposed to be this Easter Egg, and [when the film premiered at] SXSW, there was a slip-up," Chaves continued. "The presenter introduced the movie as the next entry in theConjuringUniverse. So that was a big kind of faux pas. It was a big mess-up, and that's the truth of how that all came together."

"You can't count it!" Safran chimed in. "It periodically gets lumped in because of Chaves and because of [James Wan's production company] Atomic Monster, but it is not officially part of the universe. By the way, I think Chaves did a great job on the movie, which is why westolehim for theConjuringuniverse." (Chaves went on to direct The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It and The Nun II, which releases on September 8).

For more, check out our ranking of all The Conjuring Universe movies or our list of the most exciting upcoming horror movies heading our way.

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The Curse of La Llorona was never supposed to be a Conjuring Universe movie (2024)

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The Curse of La Llorona was never supposed to be a Conjuring Universe movie? ›

The idea was that [the Annabelle cameo] was going to be this little hidden thing that you were going to discover as you watch the movie. One of the reasons that it couldn't formally be a part of the Conjuring universe is it didn't include one of the key producers, which is Peter Safran."

Why is The Curse of La Llorona not in The Conjuring Universe? ›

However, the Conjuring connection ultimately turned out to not be true (via Collider). La Llorona director Michael Chaves commented that the 2019 movie ultimately can't be part of The Conjuring universe because one key Conjuring producer wasn't involved.

Is The Curse of the Nun part of The Conjuring Universe? ›

There are 9 total movies set within The Conjuring universe — three Conjuring movies, three Annabelle movies, The Nun and The Nun 2, and The Curse of La Llorna. A fourth Conjuring movie has been confirmed, while a TV series is in development for Max.

Is The Curse of La Llorona part of The Conjuring Reddit? ›

Michael Chaves and Peter Safran confirm that “The Curse Of La Llorona” is NOT part of The Conjuring Universe.

How does the nun fit into The Conjuring Universe? ›

The Nun movies are actually prequels to The Conjuring series. While The Nun and its sequel take part in the 1950s, The Conjuring is set in the 1970s. Valak torments a young nun throughout the series, and it's only when Lorraine encounters Valak two decades after that we see the demon defeated.

What gender is La Llorona? ›

La Llorona, a mythological woman in Mexican and Latin American oral tradition whose siren-like wails are said to lure adults and children to their untimely deaths.

Is Ed and Lorraine Warren in The Curse of La Llorona? ›

In La Llorona, we see a flashback of Perez holding Annabelle (it's a scene from the 2014 movie), suggesting that, while the Warrens are not present in this movie, this film exists in the same universe as the other ones within the Conjuring extended universe.

How is Valak connected to Annabelle? ›

The Reddit post suggests that Valak simply wanted to set Annabelle's demon free into the world. After the events of Creation, he terrorizes the two families from the first film and then the Warrens themselves in Annabelle Comes Home because of the St. Lucy connection.

Where does nun 2 fall in the timeline? ›

The events in "The Nun 2" unfold four years after the original film, placing them in 1956. This situates The Nun 2 as the third movie in the Conjuring timeline. This sequel follows Annabelle: Creation, which occurs in 1955, creating a one-year gap within the franchise timeline.

What part of conjuring is Valak? ›

As far as the franchise is concerned, Valak first appeared in The Conjuring 2, but the demon's origins go back further than that, and the prequel The Nun revealed that Valak was, in actuality, a fallen angel banished to Hell by St. Michael the Archangel.

Does The Curse of La Llorona have anything to do with Annabelle? ›

The Curse of La Llorona isn't actually a part of The Conjuring Universe despite its two Annabelle-related cameos, says director Michael Chaves. It only became known as the eighth installment in the hit horror franchise, apparently, because of a presenter's unfortunate misunderstanding at a film festival.

Is The Curse of La Llorona part of the nun? ›

'Nun 2' Director Explains Why His 'Curse of La Llorona' Isn't Part of the 'Conjuring' Universe.

Is Valak in The Curse of La Llorona? ›

La Llorona is the first villain in a feature-length film from The Conjuring Universe franchise who has no direct connection or interaction to either Annabelle the Doll or Valak.

Is The Nun supposed to be Lorraine? ›

The two are not the same person, and they might not even be sisters. However, the movie reveals that Sister Irene and Lorraine Warren are from the same bloodline. This was revealed when the movie explored Sister Irene's heritage, and it showed she is a descendant of Saint Lucy.

Are Ed and Lorraine in The Nun 2? ›

The mid-credits scene of the movie sees the main Conjuring characters Ed (Patrick Wilson) and Lorraine Warren (Vera Farmiga) receiving a call from Father Gordon, the character who facilitates many of their paranormal investigations.

Is Valak still alive after nun 2? ›

Along with fellow nun Debra (Reid), Irene prays using the words of intuition (Jesus's words at The Last Supper) and their father turns the wine in the room into the blood of Jesus, which then washes over Valak, who is sent in flames back to Hell.

What universe is La Llorona in? ›

The film was produced by James Wan through his Atomic Monster banner and, though not considered an installment in the franchise, takes place within The Conjuring Universe. The Curse of La Llorona premiered at South by Southwest on March 15, 2019, and was theatrically released in the United States on April 19, 2019.

How is Annabelle connected to The Conjuring? ›

Annabelle , released in 2014 , is a prequel to The Conjuring and tells the backstory of the possessed doll that appears in the first film . Both films are based on real - life cases investigated by the Warrens .

What was the curse in Conjuring 3? ›

Kastner explains that the curse requires a blood sacrifice of murder and suicide from three souls – the child, the lover, and the man of God. David is the child, but in taking the demon from David, Arne becomes his surrogate. He's committed the murder and is now trying to kill himself, under the influence of the demon.

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